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triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by LSP » Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:14 am

Has anyone been successful using/triggering Steven Slate's SSD4 from the 'plugin' feature on Drumagog 5 Platinum?

The tutorial states that ANY virtual instrument should work in this manner, yet I can't get SSD4 to trigger, while other VI's work perfectly.

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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by neilwilkes » Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:47 am

If you do find out how to do this, please let me know too.
I suspect the MIDI out note is wrong somewhere - I know to get BFD2 triggering I have to tell it to "learn" the input every time.
Never have got SSD4 running in it myself though....would love to get that happening.
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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by Chris M » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:47 pm

Hello,

There is sometimes a two-octave discrepancy in MIDI notes--if you are triggering using C3 from Drumagog, try receiving C1 and C5, as it may actually be looking for these notes on the other end.

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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by neilwilkes » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:31 am

What settings need to be made in D5 for this, Chris?
With BFD2 it just works as long as I tell BFD2 to "learn" the incoming signal.
I cannot see any way to do this in SSD4 though.
Should I try to remap in SSD4, or should I be using the MIDI out from D5?
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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by Chris M » Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:48 pm

Hello,

If there is not a note learn function in SSD4, you may need to remap within SSD4, or just use Drumagog's MIDI out to send data to a separate track.

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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by neilwilkes » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:26 am

Chris M wrote:Hello,

If there is not a note learn function in SSD4, you may need to remap within SSD4, or just use Drumagog's MIDI out to send data to a separate track.

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Chris
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I'll try the former - but the latter had never occurred to me.
How would I go about doing that, or is this all in that f'ine manual?
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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by Chris M » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:25 pm

Yes, here is the excerpt from the manual discussing triggering Virtual Instruments:

Sending MIDI to a virtual instrument, such as EZ Drummer, Halion, BFD2, Kontakt, etc, differs depending on the DAW being used. Some natively support Drumagog’s MIDI Out (like Cubase and Nuendo), while many others do not, such as Pro Tools, Logic, and SONAR. For these systems a virtual MIDI “cable” (loopback) will be required in order to route MIDI properly.

If the DAW directly supports MIDI output from a plug-in (Nuendo or Cubase, for example), using the MIDI output is easy:

1. Enable “MIDI Out” in Drumagog’s Settings window.
2. Choose “Internal Port” from Drumagog’s MIDI port drop-down list.
3. Choose a MIDI note and channel.
4. Create a new MIDI (or instrument) track. Route the track’s output to the virtual synth (if needed).
5. Choose “Drumagog” as the MIDI track’s input.
6. Make sure the virtual synth’s MIDI channel and note settings match Drumagog’s, editing the values if needed.

If the DAW does not support Drumagog’s MIDI out a virtual MIDI cable to route the MIDI data (essentially “looping” the MIDI signal out of the DAW and then back in again to a MIDI track) is needed. The exact procedure varies between every DAW and computer combination, but the essential steps are outlined below:

1. Download and install a virtual MIDI “loopback” program (not included). Check the list at the end of this section for suggestions for each OS.
2. Enable “MIDI Out” in Drumagog’s Settings window.
3. In Drumagog’s MIDI port drop-down box choose your virtual MIDI cable port (i.e. MIDI Yoke Port 1, or MIDI Pipe Input 1).
4. Choose a MIDI note and channel.
5. On your virtual instrument (for example BFD2), choose the same note and channel number.
6. Create a new MIDI (or instrument) track and set the track’s input to the corresponding “loopback” port (i.e. MIDI Yoke Port 1 or MIDI Pipe Output 1).
7. Set the MIDI track’s output to the virtual instrument (if needed).
8. Record Drumagog’s MIDI output data to the MIDI track and then “nudge”, as needed (i.e. move earlier), to lineup the data.

Virtual MIDI “loopback” software applications:
OSX: MIDI Pipe
Windows: MIDI Yoke (Windows XP and below) LoopBe1 (Vista and Win7 compatible)

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Re: triggering SSD4 from drumagog platinum ??

Post by neilwilkes » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:38 am

Thanks, Chris.
I will try this today.
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